![]() The hardest thing about emacs is controrting your hand to hit all of the keys needed for a given command. The hardest thing about vi is knowing what mode you're in. Compared to the multiple megs of emacs - however fast or slow your machine is VI will load faster than emacs. Further more, vi is far superior to most other editors if all you want to do is open a short file edit a single word and quit. vi is the only editor that you can be sure will be on a given server. Most of these people are programmers of one variety or another. It can be used as an editor, file browser, email client, etc., all due to the embedded lisp engine it has. ![]() Many people who use emacs start it once at the beginning of the day and never leave. It really depends on what you're going to be doing. Posted by Mars Saxman at 11:16 AM on June 16, 2004 The line-wrapping algorithm got old, but I'd rather deal with extra linebreaks every now and then than try once again to comprehend vi or emacs. I used it exclusively during a nine or ten month Linux programming stint a few years ago and got along quite swimmingly. Pico, on the other hand, is simple, obvious, and functional. After a great deal of study, I did manage to get to the point - in either editor - where I could open a file, make simple changes that didn't involve inserting or removing lines, and quit again, but the process was so unbearably laborious that I swore them both off for good. I couldn't even figure out how to make vi quit, the first couple of times I accidentally stumbled into it, and the documentation for Emacs was practically incomprehensible - like trying to read Russian, or something I could see that there were words there, but couldn't figure out how to pronounce them, much less divine their meaning. Maybe I'm just spoiled by all my Mac OS experience, where you can launch any text editor, no matter how complex, and immediately perform at least basic editing tasks, but I found both vi and emacs impossibly difficult. Posted by RustyBrooks at 10:40 AM on June 16, 2004 Hell, I can hardly use oracle, gdb, tons of other shell-based tools without emacs any more. ![]() I have hundreds to thousands of lines of lisp code that does all the stuff I need. ![]() Emacs comes with a pretty decent tutorial. 6 you can open, save, spell check, print, etc using menus (and the menus also generally give the keybinding for that command) so you can at least DO stuff without knowing all the key bindings. I use 20.7 or 20.6 depending on where I am. Emacs is to some people also, I understand, but, at least at first blush you can start it up and start typing. This is partly because I know lisp (which is essentially the scripting language emacs uses for, well, everything). I've seen people do Real Work in both, so I don't think it'll be a problem either way. ![]()
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